Monitor drivers for Dell and Lenovo in #Windows10

Even if the specs for an older machine are adequate and meet Windows 10 requirements, I am running into problems when comes to the graphics (video).

Starting from scratch, after wiping out the old Windows XP systems – it seems Windows is determined to install incorrect refresh rates. This makes the Windows 10 operating system almost unusable. Who wants a computer that can’t run video?

On the Lenovo Thinkpad, Windows installs a 50 Hertz refresh rate. normal refresh rates for generic monitors is 60 Hertz. On the Dell laptop, Windows ten installs the monitor at 64 Hertz refresh rate. In both cases, the incorrect refresh rates effectively prevent video from running without all kinds of stops and staggers.

Even after installing the correct ATI drivers to the IBM Thinkpad, it still settles on the 50 Hertz refresh rate. And the older version of MOM (Catalyst Control Center) does not give the options for forcing a better refresh rate. And neither does Windows, btw. There is no way to fix the bad refresh rates. Short of registry tweaks. Which I do know one ATI tweak that may or may not get results. I have never used it specifically to force a refresh rate.

The Dell, on the other hand – might be hopeless. It has the 915GM integrated Intel graphics, which is like the one model that got destroyed by its own maker, Intel. Apparently at the time, Intel and Microsoft were in feud over Windows Vista support, and Intel never updated the drivers on the 915GM to run within a Vista on up file system. Has nothing to do with graphics capability, like they claim. nothing — because Linux has the drivers. Intel even lists the Linux drivers. So that is a tad frustrating.

Combine that with Windows 10 insisting to set incorrect and unstable refresh rates – and I feel like I’m caught between a giant battle of two idiots. Life kind of regresses when your mind is circling around what to google and find an answer to these kind of roadblocks.

So what to do? I could say to heck with it, and install Linux systems on both machines. Problem with that, is I wanted to get the IBM up to shape as a Windows machine for my cousin to use. While Linux distros have come a long way, they are still not quite something for the novice computer user. And the Dell laptop is something the handyman (who found it by a dumpster) might want to replace one other lap top he has been using. So again, are looking at the Windows being a better option for an average user.

What this leaves me with, is I need a copy of Windows XP to install. They can be pricey, and top that with the fact that XP is no longer supported. So are not “safe” to use at this point. And the only real problem I have with both machines in running Windows 10, is the graphics and video. The only problem I really have is the incorrect drivers that Windows installs for the laptop monitors.

There are ways to go in and build your own .inf files. So I’m thinking about THAT. Only thing is it means research and study and TIME for me, where I’m not sure if either of these machines is worth it in the first place. I would be perfectly happy to have Linux on them, but if I’m not keeping these laptops – they need to be outfitted with something like Windows.

And that’s where my brain is left just circling and circling. And it hinges on that Windows imposed refresh rate, that is something beyond just drivers. I can feel it. Because on the ATI catalyst control center, where it lists “force” – under refresh rates it still only gives the 50 Hertz bad refresh rate. Which means that the ATI could not even override what Windows is imposing on the system.

I have seen this before. Under Windows 8, it would impose a 72 Hertz refresh rate on a monitor, causing it to be all lines and a bad display. So the main question, is WHY??????

That is where I will Google and hunt, next. Will be updating this blog as my search continues…

3-25-2015

So I put Windows XP back on both machines, so could get the drivers re-established. Thing is, neither one can run video right, even so. And the hardware can DO it, because at least the one (Dell) can run video with Ubuntu on a stick plugged in. SO — I am looking at a setting or Windows feature in the Power? Something that is causing graphics drivers to malfunction and video to not play correctly.

I thought it was the refresh rates, but even WITH the right refresh rates, are still doing this staggered choppy number on video.

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4-4-2015

from what can tell so far now, it is the Flashplayer that is major problem. and this is because of “peer networking” ??? i have shut down as many server portions of the OS as i dare. but what am thinking is that current trends are to save the servers on video feeds, so instead of a direct line from the server to your machine, it is going to your machine and then to the next machine. if you have a lower grade CPU that can’t keep pace, too bad. because the draw on it will keep rising well past any point of functionality.

for right now, it seems that lowering the save space for Flash to “0” is helping to at least not make it go beyond 100% CPU usage. still uses that 100% and heats up something fierce, but with various tweaks on the IBM thinkpad, have gotten it to where it plays internet video fairly smooth without too much interruption.

still not ideal, and obviously an unnecessary tax on the machine. because when the Flash programming window comes up in front of a video, the video is still playing and going — yet at that point the CPU usage goes down to 40-50%. so the flashplayer CAN play a video without using that amount of resources, it just doesn’t WANT to.

once the settings are on the machine, they stay there. so installing the older version AFTER you already installed and uninstalled the new one — does not work. but on an OS clean install, with older browser and the older 11 Flashplayer — the video works FINE. as in no problems at all.

so is a new setting of some kind, that maxes out the CPU on Flash. once the CPU goes over 100% — it makes the video choppy and all the rest of responses by the system slow and in danger of crashing.

4-16-2015

i put XP back on the Dell, since is the only OS that will work with the intel graphics. want to duel boot it with ubuntu, but having trouble making a partition.

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10 thoughts on “Monitor drivers for Dell and Lenovo in #Windows10

  1. D' Joerdinf

    Hi, I’m new to your blog. I mostly do MAC. I only have one thought on your Windows 10 problem. Look to the boot sequences in the UEFI system folder. It would have been the BIOS settings in the pre 7 days. I hope that might help a little. So time another set of eyes, or ears on the subject maks all the difference. – D’

    • eebrinker

      these are old motherboards running the traditional legacy bios. i installed the 10 systems myself. but are you talking about the irq interrupts? i don’t think that would effect display…. the same bios gives correct display when i put a linux system on the same machine.

  2. Dom DiFrancesco

    I assume that you are running a pre-release version of Windows 10 and if so it is still an incomplete operating system with drivers and features missing. When it is officially released to the public it is likely this refresh rate problem will be resolved. Last I read earlier this week, Microsoft most likely wouldn’t have Windows 10 RTM until sometime this summer, that is if their timeline holds true. I know this kind of stuff can be frustrating and I agree for the novice Windows is certainly the best option. I hope that you can work this out.

    • eebrinker

      person in the ms forum has offered a registry hack. i will try that tomorrow. it checks out as a possibility. these ARE the beta of Windows 10. i’m in the insider program they have….. have been reporting bugs i find or problems with function.

    • eebrinker

      so far it looks like any machine built for xp is going to have trouble. if it has vista or above as the original os, then will probably be ok. the latest iso for windows 10 is much better with automatic driver install.

    • eebrinker

      it might be the non-sata hard drives on older builds? i looked up the d510 and it’s going to be in the same boat as my inspirion 1300. but i’m going to give 10 one more try on the 1300….. will do that today and let you know

  3. eebrinker

    the graphics forced into 4:3 aspect ratio with windows generic driver. there is no way of installing the xp drivers on anything above Vista. intel never updated the drivers. video still choppy and wrong aspect ratio….. no way to fix

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